Comments on: The Pastor Role http://www.nathancolquhoun.com/2006/09/15/the-pastor-role the home of Nathan Colquhoun Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:47:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Glenn http://www.nathancolquhoun.com/2006/09/15/the-pastor-role#comment-1126 Glenn Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1126 Interesting Nathan. I think when we in church made ministry into a verb we began to lose the idea of ministry as a noun or an attitude.<br /> <br /> Interesting Nathan. I think when we in church made ministry into a verb we began to lose the idea of ministry as a noun or an attitude.

]]> By: Tim Bailey http://www.nathancolquhoun.com/2006/09/15/the-pastor-role#comment-1127 Tim Bailey Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1127 as a teaching pastor, I concur. as a teaching pastor, I concur.

]]> By: Ron Smith http://www.nathancolquhoun.com/2006/09/15/the-pastor-role#comment-1128 Ron Smith Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1128 Imagine being out and being asked "what do you do for a living" and you say "Im a pastor" yet you work somewhere else full time? For society, that doesnt make sense. Why are we so worried about this title?<br /> <br /> Are you?<br /> <br /> Also, I would placce you at a "higher" level in regards to scriptures. You went to school for it, I went to school for something else. Of course I would respect your opinion, your supposed to be the expert. Imagine being out and being asked “what do you do for a living” and you say “Im a pastor” yet you work somewhere else full time? For society, that doesnt make sense. Why are we so worried about this title?

Are you?

Also, I would placce you at a “higher” level in regards to scriptures. You went to school for it, I went to school for something else. Of course I would respect your opinion, your supposed to be the expert.

]]> By: Paul Martin http://www.nathancolquhoun.com/2006/09/15/the-pastor-role#comment-1132 Paul Martin Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1132 I agree with some of what you say here, Nathan. But what do you make of that text in 1 Timothy 5:17 "Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching."? <br /> I would commend to you David Well's helpful analysis of what is wrong with pastoral ministry in "No Place For Truth." I think you are reacting more the professionalization of the ministry than anything else - at least as far as Well's defines that. I agree with some of what you say here, Nathan. But what do you make of that text in 1 Timothy 5:17 “Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching.”?
I would commend to you David Well’s helpful analysis of what is wrong with pastoral ministry in “No Place For Truth.” I think you are reacting more the professionalization of the ministry than anything else – at least as far as Well’s defines that.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nathancolquhoun.com/2006/09/15/the-pastor-role#comment-1134 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134 Hey Paul, your exactly right. I don't mean to diminish the role of the teacher and pastor but i was trying to point out the idea that we've made it into a celebrity position and no one wants to touch it and all stay away from it thinking its 'the celebritys job who we pay'<br /> <br /> Yes they deserve double honour, and I'm not even against them being paid, what i'm questioning is this idea that once the pastor is paid the position is filled and think there is no positions available which sends them looking for other work as an usher or money counter. Hey Paul, your exactly right. I don’t mean to diminish the role of the teacher and pastor but i was trying to point out the idea that we’ve made it into a celebrity position and no one wants to touch it and all stay away from it thinking its ‘the celebritys job who we pay’

Yes they deserve double honour, and I’m not even against them being paid, what i’m questioning is this idea that once the pastor is paid the position is filled and think there is no positions available which sends them looking for other work as an usher or money counter.

]]> By: Paul Martin http://www.nathancolquhoun.com/2006/09/15/the-pastor-role#comment-1135 Paul Martin Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1135 I understand.<br /> Are you thinking though that "everyone is a pastor" or are you thinking more in the categories of "plurality of leadership?"<br /> The reason I ask is becuase I think the former is swinging the pendulum too far past centre. I agree with your view that "star pastors" are a revolting picture of what servant leadership entails. But I don't think we can deny that there are some men who are called to minister to the church as pastors under the Chief Shepherd... and that these men are specific gifts to the church. I understand.
Are you thinking though that “everyone is a pastor” or are you thinking more in the categories of “plurality of leadership?”
The reason I ask is becuase I think the former is swinging the pendulum too far past centre. I agree with your view that “star pastors” are a revolting picture of what servant leadership entails. But I don’t think we can deny that there are some men who are called to minister to the church as pastors under the Chief Shepherd… and that these men are specific gifts to the church.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nathancolquhoun.com/2006/09/15/the-pastor-role#comment-1136 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1136 I do not think that everyone is a pastor, or everyone is a teacher, everyone definitly has their own gifts and we should develop people in those gifts, but the pastor role as it is, is too narrow.<br /> <br /> Churches of 600 people with one or two defined pastors doesn't work, one person can't pastor 300 people properly. But we have this idea that for some reason the pastor is the guy on the stage and we don't leave any room for other pastors to emerge within the congregation. I do not think that everyone is a pastor, or everyone is a teacher, everyone definitly has their own gifts and we should develop people in those gifts, but the pastor role as it is, is too narrow.

Churches of 600 people with one or two defined pastors doesn’t work, one person can’t pastor 300 people properly. But we have this idea that for some reason the pastor is the guy on the stage and we don’t leave any room for other pastors to emerge within the congregation.

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