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		<title>By: Scott Cheatham</title>
		<link>http://www.nathancolquhoun.com/2006/10/16/open-letter-to-mark-driscoll#comment-1197</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Cheatham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the obvious point is being missed here.  Rev. Pearson crafted a false theology of hell and began preaching it to his congregation and that is what led people to leave.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s admirable to want to help in third world poverty; many Christian organizations do, but to circumvent the Word of God and re-craft hell into your own image and then preach it as scripture is wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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Driscoll never slammed Rev. Pearson, only his theology of hell.  Jesus spoke of hell more than anyone in the Bible and we need not try to re-form it in our image.&lt;br /&gt;
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I think your comments here are a bit off base.  Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the obvious point is being missed here.  Rev. Pearson crafted a false theology of hell and began preaching it to his congregation and that is what led people to leave.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s admirable to want to help in third world poverty; many Christian organizations do, but to circumvent the Word of God and re-craft hell into your own image and then preach it as scripture is wrong.</p>
<p>Driscoll never slammed Rev. Pearson, only his theology of hell.  Jesus spoke of hell more than anyone in the Bible and we need not try to re-form it in our image.</p>
<p>I think your comments here are a bit off base.  Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.nathancolquhoun.com/2006/10/16/open-letter-to-mark-driscoll#comment-1198</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I would have supported any effort to eject this person from the pulpit.  The fact that the Scriptures speak so clearly about Hell and all three of the Ecumenical Creeds make reference to Hell would suggest very strongly that any person who would deny the existance of Hell as a place of eternal torment is outside the pale of orthodoxy.  I think the only lamentable thing is that the people in this church left and didn&#039;t deal with their errant minister.&lt;br /&gt;
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Moreover to &quot;preach like Jesus&quot; is to preach a strong message concerning judgement as 13% of his teaching is on Hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I would have supported any effort to eject this person from the pulpit.  The fact that the Scriptures speak so clearly about Hell and all three of the Ecumenical Creeds make reference to Hell would suggest very strongly that any person who would deny the existance of Hell as a place of eternal torment is outside the pale of orthodoxy.  I think the only lamentable thing is that the people in this church left and didn&#8217;t deal with their errant minister.</p>
<p>Moreover to &#8220;preach like Jesus&#8221; is to preach a strong message concerning judgement as 13% of his teaching is on Hell.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooks</title>
		<link>http://www.nathancolquhoun.com/2006/10/16/open-letter-to-mark-driscoll#comment-1199</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hell is complete absence from the influence of God.  The very fact that people like you speak of God and Love at all means that you have some sort of connection or influence from God.  You therefore are not in hell, which means that neither am I and neither is Pearson and neither is Driscoll.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hell is a place where people nullify the effect of the cross by promulgating a false gospel of feel-good faith.  In a loving manner I hope that you will open the Bible, read it, and reconsider your position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell is complete absence from the influence of God.  The very fact that people like you speak of God and Love at all means that you have some sort of connection or influence from God.  You therefore are not in hell, which means that neither am I and neither is Pearson and neither is Driscoll.</p>
<p>Hell is a place where people nullify the effect of the cross by promulgating a false gospel of feel-good faith.  In a loving manner I hope that you will open the Bible, read it, and reconsider your position.</p>
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		<title>By: chutney</title>
		<link>http://www.nathancolquhoun.com/2006/10/16/open-letter-to-mark-driscoll#comment-1200</link>
		<dc:creator>chutney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hell isn&#039;t in the Bible at all.  http://www.christian-universalism.com/links.html#metaphors-parables</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell isn&#8217;t in the Bible at all.  <a href="http://www.christian-universalism.com/links.html#metaphors-parables" rel="nofollow">http://www.christian-universalism.com/links.html#metaphors-parables</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ron Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.nathancolquhoun.com/2006/10/16/open-letter-to-mark-driscoll#comment-1201</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan, I thought only postmodern Brian McLaren supporters read your blog.  Have you guys read &quot;The last word and the word after that&quot; by Brian McLaren?  After reading that Im not even a Christian anymore....&lt;br /&gt;
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Damn, I hate this debate on hell.  We spend so much time talking about a place no one knows about and its implications on.  It really spoils things.&lt;br /&gt;
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We could be doing more important things like playing settlers of catan at our place.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan, I thought only postmodern Brian McLaren supporters read your blog.  Have you guys read &#8220;The last word and the word after that&#8221; by Brian McLaren?  After reading that Im not even a Christian anymore&#8230;.</p>
<p>Damn, I hate this debate on hell.  We spend so much time talking about a place no one knows about and its implications on.  It really spoils things.</p>
<p>We could be doing more important things like playing settlers of catan at our place.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never wrote this trying to say hell exists or not or even if he shouldn&#039;t have been taking off the pulpit.  I wrote this to show how ridiculous Driscoll on how he uses buildings, cash and attendance to either lift people up or rip into them.  He doesn&#039;t look at all at the amazing step in the right direction Pearson was taking except points out how his bad doctrine must have caused his life to go down the tubes.  Seems like retribution theolgy to me which the Book of Job is pretty strong against.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never wrote this trying to say hell exists or not or even if he shouldn&#8217;t have been taking off the pulpit.  I wrote this to show how ridiculous Driscoll on how he uses buildings, cash and attendance to either lift people up or rip into them.  He doesn&#8217;t look at all at the amazing step in the right direction Pearson was taking except points out how his bad doctrine must have caused his life to go down the tubes.  Seems like retribution theolgy to me which the Book of Job is pretty strong against.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another person commenting about Mr. Pearson on another site:&lt;br /&gt;
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&quot;While it is commendable that Mr. Pearson has become sensitive and&lt;br /&gt;
sympathetic toward the plight of Africa&#039;s perennial poor, I find it&lt;br /&gt;
interesting that the action he takes does NOTHING to actually help them.&lt;br /&gt;
Instead of starting some kind of charity in order to finance the delivery of food and clothing to these people (or something along those lines), all he does is embrace unorthodox theology (that he claims his source of revelation is directly from God is nothing short of disturbing) that completely ignores divine justice by pronouncing these people redeemed regardless of their response to the gospel. In other words, while they may be living in Hell right now, God will take care of them in the afterlife because He&#039;s good and loving (this of course, is based in turn on how WE define &quot;good&quot; and &quot;loving&quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As an aside, tt is nothing less than an intriguing coindence that this man&lt;br /&gt;
has thereby rationalized himself out of actually having to DO anything to&lt;br /&gt;
help these people. (After all, if God&#039;s going to take care of them in heaven for all eternity, what&#039;s a few years of Hell on Earth?) However, he may actually have something in the works right now so I say this tentatively.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Another interesting point is the double standard held by universalists.&lt;br /&gt;
Their theology focuses exclusively on those who they deem &quot;innocent&quot;. What&lt;br /&gt;
about people like Stalin who get away with bloody murder? If you suggest&lt;br /&gt;
that the supposedly &quot;innocent&quot; will face Hell if they reject Christ, they&#039;ll whine about how that&#039;s &quot;not fair&quot;, but if you retort by stating that it&#039;s equally unfair if people like Stalin get off the hook, they&#039;ll respond by saying, &quot;God is God. Who are you to whine about fairness and answer back to&lt;br /&gt;
him?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyway, I think I&#039;ve said enough. Consider that my two cents (less&lt;br /&gt;
inflation).&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another person commenting about Mr. Pearson on another site:</p>
<p>&#8220;While it is commendable that Mr. Pearson has become sensitive and<br />
sympathetic toward the plight of Africa&#8217;s perennial poor, I find it<br />
interesting that the action he takes does NOTHING to actually help them.<br />
Instead of starting some kind of charity in order to finance the delivery of food and clothing to these people (or something along those lines), all he does is embrace unorthodox theology (that he claims his source of revelation is directly from God is nothing short of disturbing) that completely ignores divine justice by pronouncing these people redeemed regardless of their response to the gospel. In other words, while they may be living in Hell right now, God will take care of them in the afterlife because He&#8217;s good and loving (this of course, is based in turn on how WE define &#8220;good&#8221; and &#8220;loving&#8221;).</p>
<p>As an aside, tt is nothing less than an intriguing coindence that this man<br />
has thereby rationalized himself out of actually having to DO anything to<br />
help these people. (After all, if God&#8217;s going to take care of them in heaven for all eternity, what&#8217;s a few years of Hell on Earth?) However, he may actually have something in the works right now so I say this tentatively.</p>
<p>Another interesting point is the double standard held by universalists.<br />
Their theology focuses exclusively on those who they deem &#8220;innocent&#8221;. What<br />
about people like Stalin who get away with bloody murder? If you suggest<br />
that the supposedly &#8220;innocent&#8221; will face Hell if they reject Christ, they&#8217;ll whine about how that&#8217;s &#8220;not fair&#8221;, but if you retort by stating that it&#8217;s equally unfair if people like Stalin get off the hook, they&#8217;ll respond by saying, &#8220;God is God. Who are you to whine about fairness and answer back to<br />
him?&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway, I think I&#8217;ve said enough. Consider that my two cents (less<br />
inflation).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom that was a great quote.  Where did you find that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom that was a great quote.  Where did you find that?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
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		<description>Nathan if you really have a problem with Driscoll on this, use some scripture to back yourself up.&lt;br /&gt;
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As far as your critique of Driscoll and his numbers go, those numbers are people, souls.  If Driscoll continues to point people to Jesus and save them from Hell, we should all support his numbers.  And if people like Pearson are going to feed people BS and half truths about God&#039;s love, but not his justice, then we should all pray that the numbers at those churches go down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan if you really have a problem with Driscoll on this, use some scripture to back yourself up.</p>
<p>As far as your critique of Driscoll and his numbers go, those numbers are people, souls.  If Driscoll continues to point people to Jesus and save them from Hell, we should all support his numbers.  And if people like Pearson are going to feed people BS and half truths about God&#8217;s love, but not his justice, then we should all pray that the numbers at those churches go down.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
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		<description>You might want to look into Pearson&#039;s theology a little deeper.  He believes that everyone is saved, &quot;they just don&#039;t know it yet.&quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Carlton Pearson is a huge name in Pentecostal circles and even larger in the COGIC specifically.  &lt;br /&gt;
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It would be as if John Mcarthur began preaching a false gospel.  People all over the range would have to chime in, his influence dictates it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Beware, all his supporters are likely to try and push universalism in this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might want to look into Pearson&#8217;s theology a little deeper.  He believes that everyone is saved, &#8220;they just don&#8217;t know it yet.&#8221; </p>
<p>Carlton Pearson is a huge name in Pentecostal circles and even larger in the COGIC specifically.  </p>
<p>It would be as if John Mcarthur began preaching a false gospel.  People all over the range would have to chime in, his influence dictates it.</p>
<p>Beware, all his supporters are likely to try and push universalism in this post.</p>
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