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Some Great Links for All Those That Enjoyed and Hated Lost

I love Lost. As most of you know I was a bit disappointed that it was all over and especially the way the writers ended everything, but nevertheless, it was still great writing and television. Since the show ended there are a few pieces I wanted to point to that are certainly worth the read.

First, and probably my favourite, was a 13,000 word essay on Lost by Jennifer Galicinski. It is entitled LOST: A Critique of the Modernist Quest and Prophet of a Better Way (Part 1, Part 2, Part 3). It is absolutely excellent and for anyone that found themselves lost in the weaving storylines might find this helpful. It’s also a great critique on philosophy tying it in with the imagery and storytelling of Lost. Awesome. Chris Seay should be writing stuff like this instead (he wrote a book on the gospel according to Lost before it was even finished. WHAT?

I put together a quick response to her essay here.

I wrote this when Lost first finished. 5 Reasons Why LOST Disappointed. Which after reading Jennifer’s essay above, it was probably a bit premature considering I didn’t put a lot of work into it.

This was a hilarious video that summarized a lot of how you feel after watching Lost.

An Open Letter To Anyone Who Thought The End Of Lost Was Awesome.

It would be a could compilation of links if I didn’t link to Lost and Gone Forever, who I followed and read after every single episode of the last three seasons. This site helped me understand and analyze the show much better.

Viral Hope

Remember that book that I wrote a small chapter in? Aaron Nee made this great video promoting it. Pretty sweet.

Two Worlds of Dialogue

Since being to university I have been able to hold two completely contradictory thoughts in my head at the same time and not go insane.  To many, that sentence probably sounds insane.  Here is what I have noticed though.  On paper, by choice and by my life lived I am a Free Methodist (FM), a pastor and a husband.  I am currently in the process of getting ordained by FMCIC and theStory where I am a pastor is one of their church plants.  Philosophically and in my head I am all over the place.  I am constantly reading books that are against and completely contradict everything I’ve assumed, what feels good or what I was told to believe.  I read books from theologians of all faiths, people from all faiths and people who are straight up opposed to my faith.  I constantly mess up my marriage through selfish moves, because I’m changing or through miscommunication.  I teach wrong things at my church, I hurt people and I give wrong advice sometimes.  Somehow I’ve been able to live in this tension fairly peacefully. Others usually become skeptics and/or stale.  They end up being paralyzed with options and never actually evolve and grow.  So in cautiousness, I have decided that it is best to pick a movement that I can connect with and give it my all.  This doesn’t mean I understand everything and can cognitively explain the systematic doctrine of the Free Methodists to anyone that asks.  It does mean though that I am committed, submissive and willing to do what it takes to make this relationship work.  In the same way that I have chosen to be with my wife, I have chosen to be with the Free Methodists.  This doesn’t mean I won’t screw up, say wrong things, but it does mean that I’ve entered into a relationship where I’m held accountable and I have chosen be submissive along with all sorts of other perks.

The only time this way of living every becomes problematic is when I allow the philosophical side of me seep out.  Coincidentally, this blog is an outlet for that, as has the many social networks online.  I’ve used my blog for a place of wrestling with ideas, not where I list off what I’m supposed to think.  This has caused all sorts of issues.  I’ve had numerous people accuse me of not being a very good Free Methodist, and I’ve had people accuse me of being a heretic or tell me I’m out of God’s will.  If I was to use this marriage analogy again then I can see why this is both healthy or problematic.  If my blog was a place to constantly question my marriage relationship, marriage in general and flirt with the ideas of starting relationships with other females then I can see why my marriage might not be that healthy.  However, if it’s seen as building relationships, seeking to understand and appreciate the other and hoping that my wife joins me in this journey then I can see why this would be an important thing to have.  The latter is how I see my blog.
There seems to be two camps of readers on my blog.  There is my one world where I am supposed to be a good pastor.  Teaching people in the way of Christ, giving answers not asking questions and directing people to solid doctrine.  Half the people that read my blog or interact with me online have this expectation for me.  They have a certain standard of what a good Free Methodist should think and believe and I obviously fall short of that.  So they make no qualms about calling me out, disagreeing or straight up getting involved with my relationship with the FM’s.

The other half of the people want to and do engage in the academic/philosophical conversation.  Somehow this half is able to juggle the two realities along side of me.  If I ask an offensive question or link to an offensive article their first instinct isn’t to judge and figure out my intentions and compare to me the FM standard.  Rather it is to jump into the dialogue, seek with me and see what comes out of it.  The conversation flows better with these people, it’s more honest and their is less baggage.

The problem is, most people inside the church fall into the former category.  They all want to make sure I know what the right answer is, what the right thing to believe is and what the right way to act is.  They don’t want to talk about it, they don’t want to dig deeper or wrestle, because they already know what the answers are.  There is no part of them that understands or wants anything to do with people or thoughts that fall into that second category.  While I was in school, it was all about the second category with very little room for the first.  Now that I’m back in Sarnia, everything is switched.  Somehow I can be a good pastor, hold to the Free Methodist doctrine and yet still struggle with, read about and consider contradictory thoughts and theology.  Maybe I’m just lying to myself but I like to think that I can decide to submit and sign on to one theology yet still have the freedom to seek and learn and grow with others.

This is the problem I’ve always had with statements of faith.  I felt like they limited you where you were allowed to go with your reading, thinking and exploring.  It was like a boundary that you were punished if you dare go outside of it.  I had to stop seeing statements of faith as restrictions and more of identifiers.  A statement of faith to me is an identifier of a community of people who have decided that this is who they are and this is what they are striving to be.  If it just says what everyone thinks, then I think we are truly limiting the creativity and growth of everyone who is under that statement.  I can still hold to a statement of faith that says I am a Free Methodist in one hand and with the other be seeking and evolving and growing and stretching in all sorts of directions.  I don’t know of any other way to identify myself with anything rather than looking like what they say they look like and making a choice to say “I am that.”  Identities aren’t decided by abstract theological ideas or disillusionment.  They are chosen and then lived out.

So I’m struggling to live in these two worlds.  Since leaving school, I am much more accustomed to living in a world of asking questions, reading books, landing in uncomfortable places, being challenged and having great dialogue.  Yet the deeper I get, the more I see that many people are just not interested and many are straight up opposed.  How do these two realities co-exist without one despising the other?  I’m still learning what that looks like.  One side thinks the other side is sheltered, weak and indoctrinated and the other side thinks the other is irresponsible, prideful and heretical.  At some point, somewhere the sides have to seek to understand each other and co-exist.  I’m just not convinced yet they can have great conversation.

Acer’s Customer Service Sucks

Just finished writing this post over on Linking Life.  I’m having an extremely frustrating experience with Acer right now where I am 6 months in, shipped my computer to them four times and I am still without a replacement or a refund.  Read the full post here and why Acer is being horrible and let me know if you have any ideas on how to get their attention?

Throwing Out Agendas and Replacing with Mission

In being downtown Sarnia we have always said we never wanted to have an agenda. The idea stemmed from hardcore, door-to-door sales pitches for religious beliefs that we wanted to stay away from. Missionary dating, evangelism surveys, salvation cards, invite your friends to church for a chance to win a stereo Sundays and witnessing in your cworkplace are all part of the deeply disconnected culture of evangelism that we are reacting against. When you have to fake a relationship with someone (or why bother even faking at times?) then we thought there must be something wrong.

So in going downtown, to an environment completely unfamiliar to us, one of the things we were going to make sure we did, was erase all agendas. We had seen the dangers of what agendas could do, so we wanted to steer clear of them. We were not moving downtown to “save” the downtown. We were not moving there so we could better understand their culture and then eventually hit them in the head with Bible verses. We didn’t grab beers with store owners, join the Artwalk committee or go to the concerts so we could get them to come to the events we ran or to church on Sundays. Our sole purpose was going to be to move somewhere that was abandoned and build relationships with the people that are there with no expectation on them at all. So that’s what we did.

We’ve been here for three years now. I would say we’ve done pretty well at successfully integrating ourselves into the fabric of what is happening downtown. Besides a few special circumstances, we get along with many of the people downtown and I would call most of them friends. At this point, any good Christian would see this as a great opportunity to present the gospel as we know it and share it with as many as possible. The only problem is, it sort of feels that would negate the whole non-agenda clause that we established when we first started. So we continue to build relationships, and genuinely care about the people downtown.

I think my problem with agendas are, that they feel inconsistent with what the gospel really is. When somebody has an agenda in a relationship, they are really only nice to you or want to be your friend because they want something from you, or want you to do something for them. If we wanted to have everyone that lives downtown, attend theStory’s service on Sundays, and so we started integrating ourselves into the downtown core so we could start bringing people out to the service, then that would be an agenda. That isn’t why we are there. People showing up at our service really has very little to do what is going on.

However, as Christians, I think it is still crucial that we have a mission. A mission is different than an agenda. Agenda’s can be checked off as completed when the work is done or when I get what I want. Mission is about a commitment to a way of life, something that you bring into whatever happens around you no matter how people respond, if they respond at all. As Christians, we believe that the way we should live our lives is by loving God and loving others. Part of our mission is to do that to the best ability wherever we are. Since we are downtown, our mission is played out daily in our relationships with whoever we run into. Agenda’s come with expectations for the other, mission comes with duty for yourself.

There is a purpose I’m downtown but it isn’t to complete or follow an agenda. I will not be able to wake up tomorrow morning either disappointed or excited because the agenda worked. Mission doesn’t give such a clear picture of what the future looks like. Rather, it gives you an arrow in which direction to head. The other beautiful thing about mission is that it gives purpose that is based on what you should contribute rather than what you need to accomplish or how people must respond. In other words, with mission you aren’t scored and ranked, where with an agenda, you almost get marked with how closely you followed it and how people react to you.

So after three years we are beginning to see what this looks like. If we were following an agenda, we would have been disappointed long ago, since really no one from downtown is attending our Sunday services. However, that was never our goal. Our goal was to move into downtown, and love on downtown people. End of story. Whatever comes from that was awesome, but there will never be any expectation to exactly how that will play out, who will join us or what it will look like. We are constantly accomplishing our mission every day, it will never full be accomplished and that’s what I like about mission. It just gives you daily purpose for how you should live your life rather than mandating what everyone else has to do around you to fit into how you think things should be.

For this, I am grateful. I think throwing out an agenda was a good thing for us. It has allowed us to face into whatever came our way and not pre-determined exactly what we were going to look like. We allow our mission to shape our day to day activities and how we interact and go from there. I don’t feel stuck, and I do not feel like I have failed at anything because there is nothing to fail at. I am here and I love people and I love God. Mission being accomplished.

A Conversation On Salvation: Where Are My Flaws?

The following is a conversation that happened on my Facebook Wall a few weeks ago.  Ralph is a worship pastor at the large Baptist church in Sarnia, and we tend to go back and forth quite a bit on theological conversations but never really land on any kind of common ground.  We both have our own reasons I am sure that this is the case.  The conversation that I’ve posted in its entirety below has been referenced a number of times (positive and negative).  So if you have some time, read over this conversation, correct me and show me how I could have handled this better and/or where my theology needs working.

Nathan Colquhoun All Roads Lead to Heaven? http://ff.im/-kmaGb

Domenic Ruso

Domenic Ruso
Nathan, you might want to read Stephen Prothero’s new book.

Nathan Colquhoun

Nathan Colquhoun
looks good actually, you have a copy?

Ralph Jarvis

Ralph Jarvis
So is Jesus the only way to heaven? What do you believe Nathan? It’s yes or no…is repentance and faith in Jesus Christ the ONLY way to heaven?

Nathan Colquhoun

Nathan Colquhoun
I think that’s a complicated question for a few reasons.

1. When you ask it, I think you are really asking, “do you believe that the only way someone can spend eternity in heaven (as opposed to eternity in hell) is to confess with their mouth that they cognitively believe that jesus died and rose again for their sins.”

So why don’t you reframe your question?

Cause I can answer ‘yes’ to your question, but I know we disagree, so I think the question is flawed. For the record, I do hold that only Jesus makes it possible for all to be redeemed one day, but that’s not really what you are asking me.

Ralph Jarvis

Ralph Jarvis
It is not a flawed question whatsoever. It is very straight-forward and simple. You are a pastor of a church. Is eternal salvation received through Jesus Christ and Him alone or not? Yes or no.

Nathan Colquhoun

Nathan Colquhoun
I already did, i wrote ‘yes’ and I explained what I meant by it, its complicated and is not a yes or no answer.

But I still don’t think your question makes any sense, because it is loaded with a whole slew of doctrine you are not mentioning.

Your question begs a hundred other questions, for instance, salvation from what? is eternity forever? is there another option if you don’t receive said salvation? what does “through” mean? is it a prayer, a thought, a word, an action? I could keep going, but I think you get my drift, it’s not a straight forward question, you presume and already have an understanding of all my other questions, where anyone reading this does not.

Do I believe Jesus died and rose again? Yup.
Do I believe that through Jesus salvation is offered to all? Yup.
Do I believe that if someone doesn’t understand cognitively understand what the heck we are talking about they are going to an eternal hell with no escape. No.

Ralph Jarvis

Ralph Jarvis
Biblical Christianity isn’t complicated on this matter.

Acts 4:12 referring to Jesus, says, “Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.”
John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
Any question can ‘beg other questions.’ I just wanted to know what you believe. So you sort of said yes but then you said it’s not a yes or no answer, and then you answered some other questions I didn’t ask which still don’t give a definitive answer. So I will ask it one more time. Is Jesus the ONLY way to eternal salvation? Is he the only way? That is a one word answer…yes or no.

Nathan Colquhoun

Nathan Colquhoun
No Ralph, it’s not complicated at all, that’s why we have schools, and hundreds of splits and denominations, people who spend their entire lives studying and questioning and seeking….it’s that way because it’s simple. It’s that way because everyone says it’s so “simple” but it’s really not that simple and I think we need more people who can admit that its complicated and be ok with that.

Since you brought up bible verses. I’ll throw a bunch into the mix to prove that it’s not that simple, in brackets I wrote what is expected so that you either don’t go to hell or reap eternal life.

Matthew 7:21
Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
(only those that do what he says)

John 3:5
Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.
(now you have to be baptized to)

1 Corinthians 7:14
For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.
(be married to someone who believes)

James 2:14
What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him?
(Do good deeds)

Matthew 25:45-46
“He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
(feed the poor)

So without giving you a direct answer to your flawed question again, I ask you.

What is eternal salvation?
What does it meant to be the ONLY way?

Unless you answer those questions, I’m afraid I can’t answer yours.

Ralph Jarvis

Ralph Jarvis
Peter and John ‘were unschooled, ordinary men’…as it says in Acts 4:13. I too never went to bible college and certainly I wish there were no denominations and splits and schisms. As for your verses let’s go;

Matthew 7:21 refers to the will of the Father or as you said ‘do what he says.’ God’s plan of salvation (and therefore His will) is in the giving of his son Jesus so that we would have eternal life (John 3:16). God has said through John 3:16 that it all points directly to Jesus.

John 3:5 The word “water” mentioned in this verse is not literal physical water but rather a reference to the “living water” which only Jesus gives. Check out http://www.gotquestions.org/baptism-John-3-5.html for a full description of the meaning of this verse). Conclusion – being born again is through faith in Jesus Christ.

1 Corinthians 7:14 There is absolutely nothing in this chapter that refers to eternal salvation. This about marriage. Salvation is through Jesus Christ (Acts 4:12)

James 2:14 James is not saying here that justification is by faith plus works, but rather that a person who is truly justified by faith will have good works in his/her life. One is an outcome of the other…faith in Jesus Christ produces lasting good works.

Matthew 25:45-46 First of all this is a parable. A parable is a short simple story from which a moral or religious lesson may be drawn…but typically not what you base doctrine on. This passage is similar to what James 2 says. The parable starts off with the sheep already designated on the right and the goats on the left. The core message of the parable of the sheep and goats is that good works will result from our relationship to the Shepherd, to Jesus Christ. True followers of Christ will produce good works, will treat others with kindness, will deal with others as if they were dealing with Christ. Those who reject Christ (goats on the left) live in the opposite manner. While “goats” can indeed do acts of kindness and charity, their hearts are not truly in them for the right purpose – to honor and worship God through Jesus Christ and hence they are cast out. The practical message of this parable iis, just where, exactly, we stand in relation to the Shepherd (Jesus Christ). Are you a Sheep or a Goat, saved or lost?
So the verses you gave me all point back to salvation through Jesus Christ and him alone.
There’s no such thing as a flawed question unless it contradicts itself.
So what is eternal salvation? A forever, endless, outside of time existance and deliverance from the power and penalty of sin; redemption back to God and living in his presence.

What does it meant to be the ONLY way to God? Answer – through faith in Jesus Christ. Do you believe that Nathan? Yes or no?

Nathan Colquhoun

Nathan Colquhoun
Ralph, you certainly have a lot of interpretation going on there for each and every one of those verses. That seems a bit more than simple to me. Where did you get all that information? I’m assuming from some source outside of the Bible. I didn’t throw around those verses to try to say anything with them, just to show you that throwing around verses doesn’t really prove anything. Want some more?

Mark 2:4
When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralytic, “Son, your sins are forgiven.
(looks like the friends faith gave forgiveness to his sins same in matt 9:1)

Luke 19:1-10
story of Zaccheus–chief tax collector of Jericho says he will give half of his wealth to the poor and repay those he cheated 4 times the amount. Jesus says TODAY salvation has come to your house. What? Just by giving away stuff?

Matthew 10:22
All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.
(just stay firm)

Mark 10
just read that dialogue between Jesus and the rich man, nothing about faith, but all through actions he had to do.

The point of all these, is that people come to Jesus through lots of different ways, through giving away their riches, through their friends, through baptism, through confessing, through marriage, through repentance….

So again, for the record, I do believe that only through Jesus is salvation found. But just because their is only one way to God, doesn’t mean there isn’t a lot of ways to Jesus.

Do I believe that someone has to have cognitive faith in Jesus Christ to get to God? No.

I believe babies, mentally ill, confused sinners, indoctrinated unbelievers and sexually immoral will one day be redeemed fully from the power and penalty of sin through Jesus Christ.

Side question, which you can answer later, are you serious about not basing theology on a parable and only using it for a “moral lesson?”

I think there is such thing as a flawed question if it fails to take into account everything that it is asking. I am asking for clarification on the question, which we are beginning to do through this conversation.

Ralph Jarvis

Ralph Jarvis
Yes or no Nathan! Final answer!

Nathan Colquhoun

Nathan Colquhoun
Again, I answer. It depends.

Let me ask you a yes or no question.

Do you feel guilty when you beat your wife?.

Yes or No, that’s all I want as an answer to that question.

Some questions even though phrased like a yes or no question, don’t merit a yes or no response.

Nathan Colquhoun

Nathan Colquhoun
For the record, I’m obviously not accusing you of such a thing.

Ralph Jarvis

Ralph Jarvis
haha…that’s cool…

Not sure though that the question was the same type of question but at least it helped me understand your perspective a bit.
Good interpretation of scripture is always necessary especially if one calls him/herself a ‘critical thinker.’ You mention alot of verses here and gave literal interpretations for each while I know you don’t even agree with taking the bible literally. To tell me that ‘throwing around verses doesn’t really prove anything’ is exactly my point. When I use scripture it is because I believe it is God’s word and that it is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, correction and training in righteousness.
For you, scripture is not your final belief. You have to have a ‘conversation’ about it with other people and then sort of decide what you want to believe for the present at least. To a biblical Christian, my question was very simple and easy to understand and not flawed. You are not a biblical Christian and therefore you don’t get it. I’m not being arrogant or accusing here…just stating the obvious.
Gotta run…head for church. We will talk about Jesus our redeemer and how he is the only way to heaven…!

Nathan Colquhoun

Nathan Colquhoun
I wouldn’t go that far to call me a non-biblical Christian just because you and I don’t agree on what the Bible says. We are still both using scripture here. The reason I say that you are throwing verses around is because you didn’t interpret yours. You didn’t say who was writing it, who it was being written to, what was happening while it was being written…etc. All you said is “this is what the bible says.” So I was just using scripture like you were. If I was actually trying to prove anything with it, then you would be right. So I fully agree with you that good interpretation is important (because we’ve done a bad job of that in the past). Not just interpreting individual verses either, but interpretation the narrative as a whole. What is God up to through the entire scriptures and how does this fit? That is one of the main questions I always ask.

So back to the original question. Do I believe that through Jesus, that is the only way to God and eternal salvation?

The reason I find this complicated is because you are presuming we agree on your language at all for me to answer this.

For instance, when you say “through” I think we both think that our version of that word is biblical. When you say ‘through’, my guess is that comes with the whole idea that one must decide that they believe this reality to be true for them, and unless they do make this decision then there is no eternal salvation for them. And you would have good reason to believe this, there is plenty of scripture that uses language such as “through faith in” and “confess” and “believes.”

I on the other hand see that whole transaction as being completely independent from whether or not an individual chooses to believe it or not. I believe that it is through the death and resurrection that all men from all time are given access to the eternal party, not just those that believe in Jesus. I would take my cues from scripture by looking at the entire story as a whole, looking at how Paul explains redemption in colossians and romans. I do not make a distinction between those that are “saved” and those that are “unsaved” rather my distinction comes from terms like those that decide to work along side of the kingdom of God and those that choose not too. Wherever they land on that spectrum really to me doesn’t have anything to do with an eternal destiny.

So I feel like when I answer your question, I then get pigeonholed into you thinking that I mean what you are intending, when I don’t believe that at all. This is why I am hesitant. I’m also hesitant because if I gave you a yes or no answer, then it would end the conversation, and I for one enjoy them.

Ralph Jarvis

Ralph Jarvis
Through: used as a function word to indicate means, agency, or intermediacy; as a or by means of; by the agency of; because of…

Biblical Christianity is a belief and faith in salvation and eternal life THROUGH Jesus Christ.One doesn’t need to go through an entire interpretation of a verse each time it is used. We can used scripture verses that say what they mean within a given context and this shouldn’t be construed as offensively throwing verses around…

So, I did finally get an answer from you when you said ‘when I don’t believe that at all.’ And to say “I do not make a distinction between those that are “saved” and those that are “unsaved” simply means you are in total disagreement with the scriptures and with the Apostles who wrote many, many times about being ‘saved.’ I won’t take the time to throw any verses at you but you can look ‘em up…
Thanks for the dialogue…

Nathan Colquhoun

Nathan Colquhoun
I don’t think I am in disagreement with the scriptures as much as I am in disagreement with your interpretation of them and you in disagreement with my interpretation of them. But yes, you did get an answer from me, so if you are cool with the dialogue ending there, then I bid you peace.

Ralph Jarvis

Ralph Jarvis
Peace